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lobo67 |
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I'm just glad the best guy won in Iran, and now those hooligans need to go back home and accept they lost.
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iamglobal |
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I'm just glad the best guy won in Iran, and now those hooligans need to go back home and accept they lost.Did I miss something? "More than a little hysterical" |
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Steven Tate |
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Probably the most important issue affecting Americans today.
How many of you watched it? And for those who comment on how racist Limbaugh is... you're aware that he's anti-abortion, right? According to statistics, it's black and Hispanic women who have the most abortions. (At least up to 2000-01 see below) In 2000-2001, the abortion rate was 49 and 33 per 1,000 for black and Hispanic women, and 13 per 1,000 for non-Hispanic white women. You'd think if Limbaugh were racist, he'd cheer on abortionists as a way to lessen the population of minorities - but he doesn't.... all he ever does is tell minorities to stop whining and start acting like Americans instead of "african-americans" or "hispanic americans". Is it racist of me to assume that most anti-abortion protesters congregate at abortion clinics in white neighborhoods...? (Because if they tried to interfere with a sistah who wanted an abortion, she'd beat 'em up.)
Steven
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frankie marino |
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Steven Tate wrote:interesting. you'd think that Hispanics, what with their Catholic leanings, would have a much lower abortion rate |
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bgart13 |
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If he cheered on abortion, he'd lose his audience.
Lux Interior: 10.21.46-2.4.09 RIP
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Marshall Crist |
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Steven Tate wrote:Because he hates women more than he hates minorities.
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Ted Newsom |
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Oh, Steven, it simply isn't done, dear boy. One does not mention the real reasons for the whole to-do. The masses would be quite appalled.
The purpose behind the anti-abortion movement is the maintenance of the white race, not the sanctity of life. Those behind it cynically use the instinctive revulsion most people have for "killing babies" to their own ends. Years ago-- I'm talking the '80s-- by friend Katharyn Powers was researching a TV movie about abortion. She was a screenwriter and was doing a lot of "disease of the week" sort of things, though her preference was shoot-em-ups and westerns. She was back in the midwest, hanging out with some of the elite in the "pro-life" movement, and accepted as "one of us," since she had three kids and was tall, blonde, smart and good-looking. One of the honchos took a shine to her and said one evening, "You realize, don't you, that if things keep up like this, we'll be gone." Huh? "White women. Abortions. We're becoming a minority. They're taking over. People just don't understand that. You do, I can see that." And think about it. Why, indeed, do you not see big pro-life rallies in Puerto Rican communities in NYC, or all-black areas in Birmingham, or Watts, or Harlem? Because the honchos do not care. That ain;t what this is all about. The legitimate feelings of people morally opposed to abortion-- and I respect those feelings, though I still think it's none of their business-- have been manipulated for years by those with a clear white supremicist agenda. They're afraid "those people" are going to take over. Blessed and cursed with the ability to see all sides of the issue, I see their point. Statistically that is what is happening, and has been for years: "white" (i.e., primarily middle and upper economic class) birth rates decline or stabilize, while lower income families churn them out. There are a lot of contributing factors, like the Catholic beliefs of most Hispanics (which then cuts down on the number of women who would ever consider abortion), but there it is. And it's no surprise Limbaugh doesn't address this. He's white. And rich. And has a face like a ham. |
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Latarnia |
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Ted Newsom wrote: Hmm, I'm trying to think of any pro-life rallies in NYC, period. Mirek |
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Omega Man.monsterkidclass... |
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...tell minorities to stop whining and start acting like Americans instead of "african-americans" or "hispanic americans". Do St. Patrick's Day parades get you just as riled up? How 'bout Polish or Greek heritage festivals? Oktoberfest? If not, how come? Funny, isn't it, that some folks have no problem with certain "hyphenated" types, as long as they're Irish-American, Polish-American, German-American... |
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Latarnia |
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Ted Newsom wrote: I don't think this is true at all, regardless of your Powers story. The people who oppose abortion do it out of religious and/or moral grounds. White supremacy has nothing to do with it, though you may find a very small minority with that mindset. This is just a not-to sly way of tagging pro-lifers as white supremacists--or being "manipulated" by them. Mirek |
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Latarnia |
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Omega Man wrote: Hey, I'll answer that question! I don't like the use of hyphen-Americans. Not at all. "Polish-American" included. Mirek |
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The Right Honourable Bill Maynard |
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From what I have seen, I agree with Mirek on the majority of pro-lifers' rationale being religious and moral beliefs and not "white panic." I
live in Cleveland and for the past decade, the pro-life movement here has been targeting urban schools and trying to get medical facts and alternatives (i.e.
abstinence, however unlikely it may prove) in front of African-Amercan teens and young adults. To their credit, they are moving away from angry old men showing
pictures of dead babies to grade school kids and getting more involved in issues of treatment of the sick and elderly. I understand Ted's point about
minding their own business and personally I believe many of these people have never thought their way through all of the consequences of life-related
situations (from pregnancy to caring for the ill) other than to stick to their guns about what they believe people can or cannot do. That said, the ones I
personally know (that includes various board members, an executive director, and a past and current president) seem sincere and well-intentioned. I should also
note that the past president was black and a long-standing board member is latino. Perhaps Cleveland is the exception for the right to life movement, but I
rather doubt it. The last time Cleveland was the exception to anything was when the river was on fire.
"Madness does not preclude achievement." - Blake Edwards |
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lobo67 |
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The thing about the term "African-American" is it's just PC for "black". Africa is a continent, and not a race, and Africa has many
different races in it. It's just a sepratist racial term that has been deemed PC under the push of racially motivated blacks. Now if someons is actually
from Somalia, or their parents are, it would be more technically correct to use the term Somalian-American, like German-American. But African-American is just
a blanket PC term for "black". I believe whites need to use the term European-American, because the PC term for blacks is not going away anytime
soon.
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luisj40 |
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Latarnia wrote: Well it's all fine if one doesn't like to use hyphen-American and chooses not to call themselves as
such but it's another thing to try to force others to agree with you which is the most annoying aspect of the Republican Party and its members.
Luis
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HombreLobo44 |
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Just call me Bill.
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luisj40 |
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HombreLobo44 wrote:
Come on Hombre Lobo you're much more than just a Bill.
Luis
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luisj40 |
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If Lardo Limbaugh is against abortion then fine he should never have one.
Luis
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HombreLobo44 |
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luisj40 wrote: well thank you, Luis, for the non racist compliment. personally, and my opinion has nothing to do with friggin' politics left or right, Rush Limbaugh is just a pompous bloat bag vicodin freaks around. Can't stand the man or his mouth.
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bgart13 |
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The thing about the term "African-American" is it's just PC for "black". Africa is a continet, I thought Africa was a continent.
Lux Interior: 10.21.46-2.4.09 RIP
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Omega Man.monsterkidclass... |
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I'd rather say "African-American" than "Ivory Coast-American", "Zimbabwian[sic?]-American",
"Botswanalandian-American"... Wouldn't you? And many of the descendents of slaves have no idea what exact part of Africa their
forebears came from...
As for "PC"... To a lot of white Southerners before 1865 -- hell, 1965 -- the notion of abolishing slavery was very "politically incorrect". Today, it is politically incorrect in the Republican Party to be gay or support abortion rights... even though there are apparently quite a few elected GOP officials in the closet (Sen. Lindsey Graham & Gov. Charlie Crist, for just two examples) and up to 45% of the people who vote for the party -- over 50% in some states -- are pro-Choice.
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