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Ted Newsom |
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We are all still waiting for the factual indication of the surreptitious invasion of the holy mother Church by those devious underground gay would-be priests.
Was that the failed 1959 invasion under Pope John, the CIA-sponsored 1966 invasion during the reign of Pope Paul, or the backdoor burglars under John Paul?
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Marshall Crist |
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All of the above.
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wed25.monsterkidclass... |
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Use the search terms helpfully provided by Mirek.
And no I am not going to waste any time providing documentation that will be dismissed in a la de da fashion. I wrote that the Church encouraged/allowed the recruitment of Gays in the............you know what..you know what I wrote. So does Mirek. Know or choose not to. Which is what we are doing here. |
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Marshall Crist |
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wed25 wrote: Speaking for only for myself here, it's not that I do or do not believe you, it's that I don't care or think you have a point either way. I have no problem with gay priests (other than that they are priests) and, as mentioned a few times before, gay does not = nonce. Hence, non-issue.
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frankie marino |
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i think this will help shed some light on pedophiles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesjvRihbEg
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Latarnia |
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wed25 wrote: I honestly find it difficult to follow the logic of your posts in this thread or the facts as you give them. I have to admit that I'm not trying very hard to spend too much energy on understanding them, though. Mirek |
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el rey de terror |
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I wouldn't be shocked if the church allowed the recruitment of gays into the priesthood. The church does not recognize being gay as a state being, like
being black or hispanic. To them homosexuality is a behavior. If you don't practice it, it doesn't matter. They see it like recruiting a
shoplifter....so long as he doesn't shoplift while wearing a stiff collar, all's well.
In short, the church has the psychological insight of a michael bay movie. |
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unclefred.monsterkidclass... |
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The church sees the practice of homosexuality as sin. No worse than the sins of adultery or hetero fornication. They do not exclude priests for being
homosexual as long as they are not practicing. The church does not believe any of us are perfect or sinless, hence confession and forgiveness of sins.
Christianity is based on salvation by faith which is given us by grace. You can't earn your way in through performing certain acts or be excluded by them,
unlike the other major religions. I'm not Catholic, so there may be catholic specific teachings that are somewhat different.
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Ted Newsom |
I know, I know, but it was so on point I couldn't resist | ||
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wed25.monsterkidclass... |
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By the way just thought I would note that, as per the pavlovian reaction defined at the beginning of this thread, one again an act of Muslim savergy and
barbarism results in attacks on Christians and subject changes to again those dirty Christians.
Meanwhile The Islamic state of Iran looks like it is sharpening their scimitars for a massive celebration of it being the religion of piece...s. |
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wed25.monsterkidclass... |
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Interesting footage coming out of Iran. I wonder if those stinking Jesuits are behind it all?? You KNOW how the papists are.
I wonder how long before we are treated to a great big orgy of Islam at its finest??? Seriously this will depend on what side the military takes................ But we could very well be seeing the second base of George Bush's planned triple play. Here is hoping. Another Middle Eastern country liberated from Islam oppression would be a good thing PLUS it would cut out the legs from under Hamas, Hezbollah and the Palestinians who do nothing without Tehran's permission. This may also positively effect the Al Queda situation since Tehran has been their base of operations for a few years now............................I recall reading that one of Bin Ladin's sons lives there............... |
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frankie marino |
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wed25 wrote:wasn't Iraq one of the less Islamic oppressed middle east countries? |
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wed25.monsterkidclass... |
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Well since Saddam himself began describing himself as a defender of Islam, was allied with Al Queada, provided the bomb maker for the first attack on the World
Trade center, provided funds to promote and support suicide bombers in Israel, called for the destruction of same and actually fired missiles into said country
along with constantly attacking American soldiers.......less is a relative term.
And it still would be nice to have yet another Middle Eastern country liberated so it can go Democratic and free millions of people from oppression and terror...........yes? Or is your dread of the success of the Bush Doctrine so overwelming that you are rooting for the Ayatollahs to start cutting off heads and digging the mass graves just so you can continue hating Bush unimpeded? Your post can be read that way. |
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frankie marino |
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wed25 wrote:yeah, Saddy was sort of a jerk, but like, he let women go to school and become doctors and hold public office. they were probably the most "westernized" middle eastern country...and i think your buddy Rumsfeld used to kick it with Saddam back in the day, before he sold out And it still would be nice to have yet another Middle Eastern country liberated so it can go Democratic and free millions of people from oppression and terror...........yes? Or is your dread of the success of the Bush Doctrine so overwelming that you are rooting for the Ayatollahs to start cutting off heads and digging the mass graves just so you can continue hating Bush unimpeded?i could really care less what form of government a country I DON'T LIVE IN subscribes to. really. for real. and for the billionth time, i don't hate Bush. he's kind of a funny dickhead, just like my father-in-law... but that's your stock rebuttal, dismissing anyone's counter point as anti-Bush Your post can be read that way.huh? |
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Omega Man.monsterkidclass... |
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Well since Saddam himself began describing himself as a defender of Islam, was allied with Al Queada... Saddam was not allied with Al Qaeda... Bin Laden repeatedly denounced him as a "secular dog". The only AQ cell operating in Iraqi territory prior to the 2003 invasion was in Kurdistan -- in the northern "No Fly Zone" -- outside of Saddam's control. In Saddam's Iraq women did not have to even cover their hair, much less wear a Burqa. Whiskey factories were permitted to operate. Christians were not persecuted. Now under Shi'ite control, Iraq is becoming MORE Islamic. This is absolutely irrefutable. Christians have been fleeing the country in droves because of the persecution. Wed25 cannot will history to be rewritten, even more than he can will the sun to rise in the west. Only a deluded mind tries to reconstrue the facts to fit his ideology. |
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Ted Newsom |
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Well, you see, they're all a dark-skinned semi-Semitic people, those Iraqis, you know, just like those dark-skinned semi-Semitic Iranians, who are nothing
of the kind. And they all believe exactly the same thing, world-wide Islamic dictatorship and female vasectomies, and they worship Kali, sacrifice small blonde
babies and drink their blood, just like the North Koreans, because they all carry those Axes of Evil, ready to chop off your head on TV.
One knows this because one listens to one of the few Radio Free America networks available in this backscuttler-controlled traitorous Obama commie-dictatorship, the EIB Network, Erroneous Infotainment Bllshitt, and Faux News, which has pretty pictures and a plethora of verbiage. This shall be one's last post on the subject, until I post another one. And you can look up UNMARRIED LIBERAL STALINIST PEDOPHILE EPIC on Google any time and see exactly what I mean. Ask Mirek if you don't believe me. |
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wed25.monsterkidclass... |
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A normal person.....non-muslim of course.........was horrified and saddened on 9/11 and its immediate aftermath.
The other type found their posts being taken down before they revealed the dirty little secret behind liberalism. Meanwhile the same normal people are hoping that the conservative forces in Iran manage to overthrow the radicals currently running the country whose actions, besides being a jackboot on the faces of their people, are threatening a second holoicaust and are generally a threat to human freedom. Thank God George Bush liberated Iraq so, instead of relying on Saudi Arabia, we have a stable base in the region from which to take action if we need be. Rather like, in the Pacific, the US "island hopped" and advanced along the Asian mainland to position ourselves for action against the Philipines and later Japan itself if she refused to surrender. It was so nice having adults in the White House who knew how to do war. Hopefully though......due to Bush's subtle policies against the radical Iranian regime established and quietly implemented since 2002, they may just be overthrown without an American even stubbing his toe. I am aware that Obama attempted to preserve the current regime by giving them credibility and stature by opening a dialogue with them but, thankfully, the forces Bush put into play could not be halted so easily. Though if his homies start slaughtering people perhaps Obama will get to sit down with Achmedinidajad or however he spells his name and explain to him how he is sorry how the evil United States just does not appreciated his genius. So North Korea is going to fire their missiles at Hawaii on the Fourth of July?? What a slap in the face to Obama. And now he cannot go to Bush or Cheney for advice due to his unpresidential behavior toward his predecessor. Even Clinton knew enough to consult Nixon and Reagan. Not our boy Obama. He will have to ask Jimmy Carter. Hopefully Ronald Reagan's missile defense system will save the day........and Obama's ass. Obama has been very lucky. Both Ronald Reagan and George Bush were presidents before him. Imagine the fix he would be in if Gore and Kerry had won??? Well here is hoping the conservative freedom loving people in Iran find freedom and Democracy........like their neighbors in Iraq. I realize that from a liberal perspective such will be a disaster but life has its little ups and downs............ You are next. |
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wed25.monsterkidclass... |
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Actually Ted..........for the record..........I do believe middle eastern/medeterrainian types are described as being "olive skinned" which I have
always found odd since that would mean they are green with a big red dot in the center but yes you do need to go on about the "Darkies" so do not let
me stand in your way............
And again a normal person would be rooting to the conservative forces in Iran to overthrow their oppressors. I would think if nothing else the Gays would be beside themselves since it would mean what ever Gays left in the country might have a chance to stay alive.........but no I suppose the Radical regime was the enemy of George Bush and the "zionists" so therefore the enemy of our enemies must be our friends......... Tsk. |
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Ted Newsom |
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Darling, classifying the forces in Iran protesting the election as "conservative" is a gross misnomer. There is nothing more conservative as absolute
adherence to "law" as interpreted by those whose talents are on loan from God-- in this case, the clerics. It is the current ruling elite in that
country who are now the "conservatives," not the protestors. Those people are just the poor ordinary common folk, and-- in this case-- they are the
"radicals," properly defined: taking radical (i.e., violent) action against governmental abuse (specifically, an apparently rigged election.)
It's a sliding scale, that liberal/conservative rainbow, and sometimes it's circular. Meet the old boss, same as the new boss. A second revolution may be exactly what Iran needs-- withOUT the "help" of outsiders like Russia, the CIA or anyone else-- to put their country back in the middle. I do like the olive-skinned imagery. Or even black with a brown pit, which doesn't much describe any human being, but might be appropriate for an octopus, or maybe an opossum.
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wed25.monsterkidclass... |
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So the late Shah is now to be referred to as a Liberal overthrown by conservatives???
I do find Lib word definitions wildly fluid and situational. And yes Black with pits. But I have read again and again that they.......along with Greeks and Sicilians are NOT dark skinned but Olive. So portraying the Muslims---at least the Middle Eastern ones as oppressed Blacks ain't going to fly. Maybe an oppressed vegatable food group but not Blacks. Maybe they are avacados?? In any case I am finding the events in Iran very interesting. I have read for years that the majority of Iranians are very pro-American and pro-western and loathe the current dictatorship. It DOES seem that something has set them off to put themselves are such major risk. Was not the anniversary of Tienamemn(sp) square a few days back?? It would be great if the Ayatollahs were overthrown. A truly major event that will have ripples from Palestine to Pakistan and from Yemen to Russia. And it would be a shot to the groin of Al Qeada as well. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!! Of course Al Qeada and the Taliban are less than 60 miles from the capital of Pakistan. Truly the War on Terror is a world war. |
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